David Rodigan

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2. 0:06all right so here we are now sitting
3. 0:08all right so here we are now sitting with one of the headliners at this
4. 0:12with one of the headliners at this
5. 0:12with one of the headliners at this grooving 2019 in New York City
6. 0:15grooving 2019 in New York City
7. 0:15grooving 2019 in New York City David the legendary rowdy go wow what a
8. 0:21David the legendary rowdy go wow what a
9. 0:21David the legendary rowdy go wow what a pleasure it is to have him on our camera
10. 0:23pleasure it is to have him on our camera
11. 0:23pleasure it is to have him on our camera right here on stage sir
12. 0:26right here on stage sir
13. 0:26right here on stage sir so good to see you Wow well I should be
14. 0:30so good to see you Wow well I should be
15. 0:30so good to see you Wow well I should be on a stool with a bright drop oh and you
16. 0:34on a stool with a bright drop oh and you
17. 0:34on a stool with a bright drop oh and you understood that in Jamaica in your own
18. 0:37understood that in Jamaica in your own
19. 0:37understood that in Jamaica in your own private studios how'd I know you were
20. 0:41private studios how'd I know you were
21. 0:41private studios how'd I know you were going to be here you know mocked and
22. 0:45going to be here you know mocked and
23. 0:45going to be here you know mocked and mocked it up you learned on lockup I'm a
24. 0:48mocked it up you learned on lockup I'm a
25. 0:48mocked it up you learned on lockup I'm a big fan of the show yes and I watch it
26. 0:51big fan of the show yes and I watch it
27. 0:51big fan of the show yes and I watch it because I'm an avid fan of the music and
28. 0:53because I'm an avid fan of the music and
29. 0:53because I'm an avid fan of the music and I don't know how you keep up with it I
30. 0:55I don't know how you keep up with it I
31. 0:55I don't know how you keep up with it I try my best to keep up but you're I mean
32. 0:57try my best to keep up but you're I mean
33. 0:57try my best to keep up but you're I mean no I'm serious because the thing about
34. 1:00no I'm serious because the thing about
35. 1:00no I'm serious because the thing about the music is it's developing so fast and
36. 1:02the music is it's developing so fast and
37. 1:02the music is it's developing so fast and this new generation rightly is coming
38. 1:04this new generation rightly is coming
39. 1:04this new generation rightly is coming through in the way that the scattered
40. 1:06through in the way that the scattered
41. 1:06through in the way that the scattered lights was the new generation and and
42. 1:07lights was the new generation and and
43. 1:07lights was the new generation and and the melodeon 's were a new generation
44. 1:09the melodeon 's were a new generation
45. 1:09the melodeon 's were a new generation and bob was in it so we have to have
46. 1:11and bob was in it so we have to have
47. 1:11and bob was in it so we have to have this movement without it we're lost and
48. 1:13this movement without it we're lost and
49. 1:13this movement without it we're lost and there's a new generation coming through
50. 1:15there's a new generation coming through
51. 1:15there's a new generation coming through and the music they're making is music
52. 1:17and the music they're making is music
53. 1:17and the music they're making is music for themselves because the thing elders
54. 1:19for themselves because the thing elders
55. 1:19for themselves because the thing elders say to me are I can't take the music I
56. 1:21say to me are I can't take the music I
57. 1:21say to me are I can't take the music I don't understand the music I don't
58. 1:22don't understand the music I don't
59. 1:22don't understand the music I don't understand some of it and I don't get
60. 1:23understand some of it and I don't get
61. 1:23understand some of it and I don't get some of it but what I say to people is
62. 1:25some of it but what I say to people is
63. 1:25some of it but what I say to people is well if you're not getting it's probably
64. 1:26well if you're not getting it's probably
65. 1:26well if you're not getting it's probably not for you you know because they're
66. 1:28not for you you know because they're
67. 1:28not for you you know because they're making it for themselves and that's the
68. 1:30making it for themselves and that's the
69. 1:30making it for themselves and that's the thing about the world in which we live
70. 1:32thing about the world in which we live
71. 1:32thing about the world in which we live it's moving so fast and people are
72. 1:34it's moving so fast and people are
73. 1:34it's moving so fast and people are making so much music and I'm thinking
74. 1:36making so much music and I'm thinking
75. 1:36making so much music and I'm thinking how does wimpy keep up because you're up
76. 1:38how does wimpy keep up because you're up
77. 1:38how does wimpy keep up because you're up to speed with everything
78. 1:39to speed with everything
79. 1:39to speed with everything I mean wait it's happening you've got
80. 1:41I mean wait it's happening you've got
81. 1:41I mean wait it's happening you've got the mind you you have an advantage you
82. 1:43the mind you you have an advantage you
83. 1:43the mind you you have an advantage you live in Jamaica and you're a Jamaican
84. 1:46live in Jamaica and you're a Jamaican
85. 1:46live in Jamaica and you're a Jamaican it's a heart being stunned the heartbeat
86. 1:49it's a heart being stunned the heartbeat
87. 1:49it's a heart being stunned the heartbeat is always in our ears you know
88. 1:52is always in our ears you know
89. 1:52is always in our ears you know everywhere you go but the last time
90. 1:54everywhere you go but the last time
91. 1:54everywhere you go but the last time you're in Kingston you were rocking kids
92. 1:59you're in Kingston you were rocking kids
93. 1:59you're in Kingston you were rocking kids David you kids were so I don't think you
94. 2:02David you kids were so I don't think you
95. 2:02David you kids were so I don't think you need to do anything but a play
96. 2:04need to do anything but a play
97. 2:04need to do anything but a play well I tell you I feel thrilled and
98. 2:07well I tell you I feel thrilled and
99. 2:07well I tell you I feel thrilled and honored to be on a bill as a lineup with
100. 2:09honored to be on a bill as a lineup with
101. 2:09honored to be on a bill as a lineup with this such a line of his grieving in the
102. 2:11this such a line of his grieving in the
103. 2:11this such a line of his grieving in the park you're talking about
104. 2:13park you're talking about
105. 2:13park you're talking about sizzler Kalonji Baris Hammond third
106. 2:15sizzler Kalonji Baris Hammond third
107. 2:15sizzler Kalonji Baris Hammond third world and and Michael Bolton and and
108. 2:20world and and Michael Bolton and and
109. 2:20world and and Michael Bolton and and there's a DJ on a lineup
110. 2:21there's a DJ on a lineup
111. 2:21there's a DJ on a lineup and I was like they've actually got me
112. 2:23and I was like they've actually got me
113. 2:23and I was like they've actually got me build and and what what and what I've
114. 2:27build and and what what and what I've
115. 2:27build and and what what and what I've been told by the promoters that the
116. 2:29been told by the promoters that the
117. 2:29been told by the promoters that the groove in the park team is yep that's
118. 2:31groove in the park team is yep that's
119. 2:31groove in the park team is yep that's how you're bill because we want you to
120. 2:32how you're bill because we want you to
121. 2:32how you're bill because we want you to do what you do yeah which is play your
122. 2:35do what you do yeah which is play your
123. 2:35do what you do yeah which is play your music and talk about it and they're
124. 2:36music and talk about it and they're
125. 2:36music and talk about it and they're looking forward to that that may be that
126. 2:40looking forward to that that may be that
127. 2:40looking forward to that that may be that them are in the park and it's wide very
128. 2:42them are in the park and it's wide very
129. 2:42them are in the park and it's wide very why have you done any research on it
130. 2:45why have you done any research on it
131. 2:45why have you done any research on it I have very well awesome vast and
132. 2:47I have very well awesome vast and
133. 2:47I have very well awesome vast and everybody yes yes kids mom dad grannies
134. 2:51everybody yes yes kids mom dad grannies
135. 2:51everybody yes yes kids mom dad grannies uncles it's it's a real cross-section of
136. 2:53uncles it's it's a real cross-section of
137. 2:53uncles it's it's a real cross-section of society and they're all there for one
138. 2:55society and they're all there for one
139. 2:55society and they're all there for one thing the music and the vibe and I have
140. 3:03the dub guard talking about God people
141. 3:06the dub guard talking about God people have you looked at him live when he's
142. 3:09have you looked at him live when he's
143. 3:09have you looked at him live when he's like playing records no guy no youngster
144. 3:14like playing records no guy no youngster
145. 3:14like playing records no guy no youngster is better with exerting more energy than
146. 3:17is better with exerting more energy than
147. 3:17is better with exerting more energy than you the energy is jumping you're moving
148. 3:20you the energy is jumping you're moving
149. 3:20you the energy is jumping you're moving you're you are making dance by just
150. 3:24you're you are making dance by just
151. 3:24you're you are making dance by just looking at you but I've always I can't
152. 3:26looking at you but I've always I can't
153. 3:26looking at you but I've always I can't help myself you know when you love
154. 3:28help myself you know when you love
155. 3:28help myself you know when you love something so much yeah you really love
156. 3:30something so much yeah you really love
157. 3:30something so much yeah you really love it it's like to be given the privilege
158. 3:32it it's like to be given the privilege
159. 3:32it it's like to be given the privilege to share it I remember as a youth
160. 3:34to share it I remember as a youth
161. 3:34to share it I remember as a youth hanging out my bedroom window to see if
162. 3:36hanging out my bedroom window to see if
163. 3:36hanging out my bedroom window to see if anyone was this into my Derek Morgan
164. 3:38anyone was this into my Derek Morgan
165. 3:38anyone was this into my Derek Morgan records and that was in 66 and 67 I
166. 3:41records and that was in 66 and 67 I
167. 3:41records and that was in 66 and 67 I always wanted to turn people on to
168. 3:43always wanted to turn people on to
169. 3:43always wanted to turn people on to something that I thought was so special
170. 3:45something that I thought was so special
171. 3:45something that I thought was so special and of course in those days it was
172. 3:47and of course in those days it was
173. 3:47and of course in those days it was completely new this whole Jamaican music
174. 3:50completely new this whole Jamaican music
175. 3:50completely new this whole Jamaican music movement this is what I say time and
176. 3:51movement this is what I say time and
177. 3:51movement this is what I say time and time and time and time again
178. 3:52time and time and time again
179. 3:52time and time and time again Jamaica's Jamaicans watching this show
180. 3:55Jamaica's Jamaicans watching this show
181. 3:55Jamaica's Jamaicans watching this show now in Jamaica on Jamaican television
182. 3:58now in Jamaica on Jamaican television
183. 3:58now in Jamaica on Jamaican television need to know this that the music of this
184. 4:01need to know this that the music of this
185. 4:01need to know this that the music of this island and I am NOT patronizing you and
186. 4:03island and I am NOT patronizing you and
187. 4:03island and I am NOT patronizing you and I'm not patronizing you but the music of
188. 4:06I'm not patronizing you but the music of
189. 4:06I'm not patronizing you but the music of Jamaica is revered around the world
190. 4:08Jamaica is revered around the world
191. 4:08Jamaica is revered around the world I think Jamaicans who perhaps haven't
192. 4:10I think Jamaicans who perhaps haven't
193. 4:10I think Jamaicans who perhaps haven't been to Japan or am there
194. 4:12been to Japan or am there
195. 4:12been to Japan or am there are not perhaps up to speed with the
196. 4:15are not perhaps up to speed with the
197. 4:15are not perhaps up to speed with the fact that this music has had a major
198. 4:17fact that this music has had a major
199. 4:17fact that this music has had a major impact on world music from dub from
200. 4:20impact on world music from dub from
201. 4:20impact on world music from dub from mixes from remixes before house before
202. 4:22mixes from remixes before house before
203. 4:22mixes from remixes before house before hip hop before techno this music was
204. 4:25hip hop before techno this music was
205. 4:25hip hop before techno this music was there in the format that came with
206. 4:27there in the format that came with
207. 4:27there in the format that came with Jamaica independence the incredible
208. 4:28Jamaica independence the incredible
209. 4:28Jamaica independence the incredible energy of these iconic figures you know
210. 4:30energy of these iconic figures you know
211. 4:30energy of these iconic figures you know like the Wailers at funny went as black
212. 4:32like the Wailers at funny went as black
213. 4:32like the Wailers at funny went as black art man one of the greatest albums of
214. 4:34art man one of the greatest albums of
215. 4:34art man one of the greatest albums of all time
216. 4:35all time
217. 4:35all time Bob Andes the songbook album at Studio
218. 4:37Bob Andes the songbook album at Studio
219. 4:37Bob Andes the songbook album at Studio One all these magnificent recordings
220. 4:39One all these magnificent recordings
221. 4:39One all these magnificent recordings Prince Buster I mean the list is long I
222. 4:41Prince Buster I mean the list is long I
223. 4:41Prince Buster I mean the list is long I mean you're talking about putting any of
224. 4:43mean you're talking about putting any of
225. 4:43mean you're talking about putting any of these names on a headline bill in London
226. 4:46these names on a headline bill in London
227. 4:46these names on a headline bill in London or New York 20 to three decades ago
228. 4:48or New York 20 to three decades ago
229. 4:48or New York 20 to three decades ago you're talking about complete and utter
230. 4:51you're talking about complete and utter
231. 4:51you're talking about complete and utter sell out road block this is the power
232. 4:54sell out road block this is the power
233. 4:54sell out road block this is the power and the impact that the music of your
234. 4:56and the impact that the music of your
235. 4:56and the impact that the music of your country has had on the world that is a
236. 4:59country has had on the world that is a
237. 4:59country has had on the world that is a fact and I've said it do you think we
238. 5:01fact and I've said it do you think we
239. 5:01fact and I've said it do you think we know it's enough I don't think you make
240. 5:03know it's enough I don't think you make
241. 5:03know it's enough I don't think you make what I think I think you'd probably do
242. 5:05what I think I think you'd probably do
243. 5:05what I think I think you'd probably do to an extent but I think you I'm proud
244. 5:08to an extent but I think you I'm proud
245. 5:08to an extent but I think you I'm proud to tell you I'm proud to say because
246. 5:10to tell you I'm proud to say because
247. 5:10to tell you I'm proud to say because I've seen it I've been in Italy I've
248. 5:11I've seen it I've been in Italy I've
249. 5:11I've seen it I've been in Italy I've been in Switzerland I played to these
250. 5:13been in Switzerland I played to these
251. 5:13been in Switzerland I played to these audiences and I've seen these great
252. 5:15audiences and I've seen these great
253. 5:15audiences and I've seen these great artists perform in those countries when
254. 5:17artists perform in those countries when
255. 5:17artists perform in those countries when I've been on festivals and I've seen the
256. 5:18I've been on festivals and I've seen the
257. 5:18I've been on festivals and I've seen the impact I mean just go to Benny kasym go
258. 5:21impact I mean just go to Benny kasym go
259. 5:21impact I mean just go to Benny kasym go to rata Tom Festival the Rotterdam
260. 5:23to rata Tom Festival the Rotterdam
261. 5:23to rata Tom Festival the Rotterdam Sunsplash was in Spain go to genre job
262. 5:26Sunsplash was in Spain go to genre job
263. 5:26Sunsplash was in Spain go to genre job go to Summer Jam in Germany there you're
264. 5:28go to Summer Jam in Germany there you're
265. 5:28go to Summer Jam in Germany there you're going to see it there you're going to
266. 5:30going to see it there you're going to
267. 5:30going to see it there you're going to see the impact of your music of Jamaican
268. 5:33see the impact of your music of Jamaican
269. 5:33see the impact of your music of Jamaican music what is it what is it about the
270. 5:40music what is it what is it about the
271. 5:40music what is it what is it about the music that got you that got the word the
272. 5:43music that got you that got the word the
273. 5:43music that got you that got the word the impact of the music that got the world
274. 5:45impact of the music that got the world
275. 5:45impact of the music that got the world scar and especially reggae was the
276. 5:47scar and especially reggae was the
277. 5:47scar and especially reggae was the message of passion and the melodies
278. 5:49message of passion and the melodies
279. 5:49message of passion and the melodies those three things mixed together those
280. 5:52those three things mixed together those
281. 5:52those three things mixed together those unique voices I'm a sucker for a melody
282. 5:55unique voices I'm a sucker for a melody
283. 5:55unique voices I'm a sucker for a melody I love a melody you take a group like
284. 5:57I love a melody you take a group like
285. 5:57I love a melody you take a group like the melodious and listen to what they
286. 6:00the melodious and listen to what they
287. 6:00the melodious and listen to what they did you take the raw brusque style of
288. 6:03did you take the raw brusque style of
289. 6:03did you take the raw brusque style of toots and the Maytals listen to the
290. 6:05toots and the Maytals listen to the
291. 6:05toots and the Maytals listen to the Wailers and those early recordings the
292. 6:07Wailers and those early recordings the
293. 6:07Wailers and those early recordings the beauty and majesty was in the songs and
294. 6:09beauty and majesty was in the songs and
295. 6:09beauty and majesty was in the songs and the melodies his haunting Arrangements
296. 6:12the melodies his haunting Arrangements
297. 6:12the melodies his haunting Arrangements these great horn arrangements
298. 6:14these great horn arrangements
299. 6:14these great horn arrangements you know Bob Andes I've got to go back
300. 6:17you know Bob Andes I've got to go back
301. 6:17you know Bob Andes I've got to go back home is just one example I've played
302. 6:19home is just one example I've played
303. 6:19home is just one example I've played that at the dub garden last year in
304. 6:21that at the dub garden last year in
305. 6:21that at the dub garden last year in Jamaica and everyone sang
306. 6:24Jamaica and everyone sang
307. 6:24Jamaica and everyone sang Anna dan Anna Anna I've got to go back
308. 6:28Anna dan Anna Anna I've got to go back
309. 6:28Anna dan Anna Anna I've got to go back home and at the bridge everyone sings
310. 6:30home and at the bridge everyone sings
311. 6:30home and at the bridge everyone sings the horns this is a reflection of why
312. 6:33the horns this is a reflection of why
313. 6:33the horns this is a reflection of why the music is so important and also the
314. 6:35the music is so important and also the
315. 6:35the music is so important and also the music stood up for injustice it stood up
316. 6:38music stood up for injustice it stood up
317. 6:38music stood up for injustice it stood up for people who were in sufferation
318. 6:40for people who were in sufferation
319. 6:40for people who were in sufferation because it spoke man to man woman to
320. 6:43because it spoke man to man woman to
321. 6:43because it spoke man to man woman to woman about what people were having to
322. 6:45woman about what people were having to
323. 6:45woman about what people were having to endure and this music is a great release
324. 6:49endure and this music is a great release
325. 6:49endure and this music is a great release you know it lifts people's souls it
326. 6:51you know it lifts people's souls it
327. 6:51you know it lifts people's souls it gives people solace and comfort it gives
328. 6:54gives people solace and comfort it gives
329. 6:54gives people solace and comfort it gives people hope and that's what it did
330. 6:56people hope and that's what it did
331. 6:56people hope and that's what it did that's what the music is done and that's
332. 6:58that's what the music is done and that's
333. 6:58that's what the music is done and that's why when people hear it in other
334. 6:59why when people hear it in other
335. 6:59why when people hear it in other countries even if they don't understand
336. 7:01countries even if they don't understand
337. 7:01countries even if they don't understand it they get it there's something within
338. 7:04it they get it there's something within
339. 7:04it they get it there's something within the music which strikes a chord in the
340. 7:07the music which strikes a chord in the
341. 7:07the music which strikes a chord in the heart and soul of people and once you
342. 7:09heart and soul of people and once you
343. 7:09heart and soul of people and once you get that reggae fever there is no known
344. 7:12get that reggae fever there is no known
345. 7:12get that reggae fever there is no known antidote
346. 7:13antidote
347. 7:13antidote it is infectious it is a passion I was
348. 7:21it is infectious it is a passion I was
349. 7:22it is infectious it is a passion I was doing a hatchery with them doing dance
350. 7:26doing a hatchery with them doing dance
351. 7:26doing a hatchery with them doing dance on to it and more passionate in some
352. 7:30on to it and more passionate in some
353. 7:30on to it and more passionate in some respects yes so we there is a new
354. 7:37respects yes so we there is a new
355. 7:37respects yes so we there is a new generation before the new roots
356. 7:39generation before the new roots
357. 7:39generation before the new roots yes onyx and those guys yes are we then
358. 7:45distracted from what why the world wants
359. 7:49distracted from what why the world wants why is the world still interested in
360. 7:53why is the world still interested in
361. 7:53why is the world still interested in that in the melody and the messages of
362. 8:00that in the melody and the messages of
363. 8:00that in the melody and the messages of love and bliss mountain and equal rights
364. 8:05love and bliss mountain and equal rights
365. 8:05love and bliss mountain and equal rights and justice and of the world is
366. 8:07and justice and of the world is
367. 8:07and justice and of the world is distracted by what's happening there's
368. 8:09distracted by what's happening there's
369. 8:09distracted by what's happening there's no two ways about it yes people have
370. 8:11no two ways about it yes people have
371. 8:11no two ways about it yes people have told me this time and time again what
372. 8:13told me this time and time again what
373. 8:13told me this time and time again what has happened to the origins of the music
374. 8:16has happened to the origins of the music
375. 8:16has happened to the origins of the music what has happened to this new format of
376. 8:18what has happened to this new format of
377. 8:18what has happened to this new format of music and it has impacted and I say
378. 8:22music and it has impacted and I say
379. 8:22music and it has impacted and I say openly without fear or favor because
380. 8:25openly without fear or favor because
381. 8:25openly without fear or favor because it's the truth and what I say
382. 8:27it's the truth and what I say
383. 8:27it's the truth and what I say in in by way of reflecting it and trying
384. 8:29in in by way of reflecting it and trying
385. 8:30in in by way of reflecting it and trying to understand it because I think the
386. 8:31to understand it because I think the
387. 8:31to understand it because I think the important thing in life is always to try
388. 8:33important thing in life is always to try
389. 8:33important thing in life is always to try if you don't understand something you
390. 8:35if you don't understand something you
391. 8:35if you don't understand something you don't know about something you have to
392. 8:37don't know about something you have to
393. 8:37don't know about something you have to try and get your head around it why is
394. 8:38try and get your head around it why is
395. 8:38try and get your head around it why is it happening can we as someone once said
396. 8:41it happening can we as someone once said
397. 8:41it happening can we as someone once said walk a mile in that man's shoes to
398. 8:43walk a mile in that man's shoes to
399. 8:43walk a mile in that man's shoes to understand why this is happening we may
400. 8:46understand why this is happening we may
401. 8:46understand why this is happening we may not understand why these young musicians
402. 8:48not understand why these young musicians
403. 8:48not understand why these young musicians are making the music they make
404. 8:49are making the music they make
405. 8:49are making the music they make within the dancehall genre one of the
406. 8:51within the dancehall genre one of the
407. 8:51within the dancehall genre one of the observations I would make about some of
408. 8:53observations I would make about some of
409. 8:53observations I would make about some of the beats they're creating is they don't
410. 8:55the beats they're creating is they don't
411. 8:55the beats they're creating is they don't have the impact of 80s and 90s dancing
412. 8:59have the impact of 80s and 90s dancing
413. 8:59have the impact of 80s and 90s dancing now what we've seen is this incredible
414. 9:01now what we've seen is this incredible
415. 9:01now what we've seen is this incredible eruption of afro beats that afro beat
416. 9:04eruption of afro beats that afro beat
417. 9:04eruption of afro beats that afro beat thing has been a phenomena truly
418. 9:06thing has been a phenomena truly
419. 9:06thing has been a phenomena truly incredible
420. 9:07incredible
421. 9:07incredible it is blazed a trail across Africa into
422. 9:11it is blazed a trail across Africa into
423. 9:11it is blazed a trail across Africa into Europe and now into America you know I
424. 9:13Europe and now into America you know I
425. 9:13Europe and now into America you know I miss hearing afro beats on the radio
426. 9:15miss hearing afro beats on the radio
427. 9:15miss hearing afro beats on the radio downtown in Manhattan today so what does
428. 9:17downtown in Manhattan today so what does
429. 9:17downtown in Manhattan today so what does that tell you that's telling you that
430. 9:18that tell you that's telling you that
431. 9:18that tell you that's telling you that there was once a time when afro music
432. 9:21there was once a time when afro music
433. 9:21there was once a time when afro music wasn't as popular as it is now but one
434. 9:23wasn't as popular as it is now but one
435. 9:23wasn't as popular as it is now but one of the observations and one of the
436. 9:25of the observations and one of the
437. 9:25of the observations and one of the criticisms leveled Jamaican that the new
438. 9:28criticisms leveled Jamaican that the new
439. 9:28criticisms leveled Jamaican that the new wave of Jamaican dancehall music is the
440. 9:30wave of Jamaican dancehall music is the
441. 9:30wave of Jamaican dancehall music is the beats and the production are not as
442. 9:32beats and the production are not as
443. 9:32beats and the production are not as heavy and as fat and as juicy they don't
444. 9:34heavy and as fat and as juicy they don't
445. 9:34heavy and as fat and as juicy they don't drop in the way that a Stevie and
446. 9:36drop in the way that a Stevie and
447. 9:36drop in the way that a Stevie and clearly beat did or add a Kelly this is
448. 9:38clearly beat did or add a Kelly this is
449. 9:38clearly beat did or add a Kelly this is one of the observations but the fact of
450. 9:42one of the observations but the fact of
451. 9:42one of the observations but the fact of the matter is that these young producers
452. 9:44the matter is that these young producers
453. 9:44the matter is that these young producers are making the music that they want to
454. 9:46are making the music that they want to
455. 9:46are making the music that they want to make for their peer group and unless you
456. 9:48make for their peer group and unless you
457. 9:48make for their peer group and unless you get your head around that it's difficult
458. 9:50get your head around that it's difficult
459. 9:50get your head around that it's difficult I also think that anything that
460. 9:52I also think that anything that
461. 9:52I also think that anything that glorifies violence in an in a negative
462. 9:55glorifies violence in an in a negative
463. 9:55glorifies violence in an in a negative way has no serious purpose it's like
464. 9:59way has no serious purpose it's like
465. 9:59way has no serious purpose it's like okay then people say oh why do you wrong
466. 10:01okay then people say oh why do you wrong
467. 10:01okay then people say oh why do you wrong wrong what's a gang
468. 10:03wrong what's a gang
469. 10:03wrong what's a gang yeah okay I take that point but if
470. 10:05yeah okay I take that point but if
471. 10:05yeah okay I take that point but if there's a genuine glorification of it in
472. 10:07there's a genuine glorification of it in
473. 10:07there's a genuine glorification of it in other words that this is something we
474. 10:09other words that this is something we
475. 10:09other words that this is something we should be doing or something I kind of
476. 10:11should be doing or something I kind of
477. 10:11should be doing or something I kind of ganker then I I question that because as
478. 10:14ganker then I I question that because as
479. 10:14ganker then I I question that because as an avid fan of the music that's not what
480. 10:16an avid fan of the music that's not what
481. 10:16an avid fan of the music that's not what attracted me to the music what attracted
482. 10:18attracted me to the music what attracted
483. 10:18attracted me to the music what attracted me to them is it was upliftment this
484. 10:20me to them is it was upliftment this
485. 10:20me to them is it was upliftment this music uplifted people if you're going to
486. 10:23music uplifted people if you're going to
487. 10:23music uplifted people if you're going to put people down in a hole and make them
488. 10:25put people down in a hole and make them
489. 10:25put people down in a hole and make them seek out a life which is negative and
490. 10:27seek out a life which is negative and
491. 10:27seek out a life which is negative and vacuous then you're inviting something
492. 10:30vacuous then you're inviting something
493. 10:30vacuous then you're inviting something into your community which is negative
494. 10:32into your community which is negative
495. 10:32into your community which is negative which serves no useful purpose and we
496. 10:35which serves no useful purpose and we
497. 10:35which serves no useful purpose and we have to question why what's that what's
498. 10:37have to question why what's that what's
499. 10:37have to question why what's that what's the use of them the world would look to
500. 10:44the use of them the world would look to
501. 10:44the use of them the world would look to Jamaica if they want to battle violence
502. 10:46Jamaica if they want to battle violence
503. 10:46Jamaica if they want to battle violence how to kill people
504. 10:48how to kill people
505. 10:48how to kill people Jamaica would be the place to look for
506. 10:52Jamaica would be the place to look for
507. 10:52Jamaica would be the place to look for ways to do that no because they're
508. 10:54ways to do that no because they're
509. 10:54ways to do that no because they're people in the world
510. 10:55people in the world
511. 10:55people in the world oh I could not agree more
512. 11:00oh I could not agree more
513. 11:00oh I could not agree more I could not agree more it's happening
514. 11:02I could not agree more it's happening
515. 11:02I could not agree more it's happening now in the Yemen yeah you know people I
516. 11:05now in the Yemen yeah you know people I
517. 11:05now in the Yemen yeah you know people I mean wars wars weapons of war not rumors
518. 11:10mean wars wars weapons of war not rumors
519. 11:10mean wars wars weapons of war not rumors of war but war yes I agree
520. 11:12of war but war yes I agree
521. 11:12of war but war yes I agree so Jamaica was the opposite of that
522. 11:14so Jamaica was the opposite of that
523. 11:14so Jamaica was the opposite of that Jamaica the music as you've said love
524. 11:19Jamaica the music as you've said love
525. 11:19Jamaica the music as you've said love poverty yes I mean girls the world yes
526. 11:23poverty yes I mean girls the world yes
527. 11:23poverty yes I mean girls the world yes yes of course Winfred of course so they
528. 11:27yes of course Winfred of course so they
529. 11:27yes of course Winfred of course so they don't want you for anything else that's
530. 11:29don't want you for anything else that's
531. 11:29don't want you for anything else that's what they want that's what the world
532. 11:30what they want that's what the world
533. 11:30what they want that's what the world wants them to make you look at the big
534. 11:32wants them to make you look at the big
535. 11:32wants them to make you look at the big records right no coffee right oh stop
536. 11:35records right no coffee right oh stop
537. 11:35records right no coffee right oh stop there there is one glittering gleaming
538. 11:38there there is one glittering gleaming
539. 11:38there there is one glittering gleaming shining example of how a young 18 19
540. 11:42shining example of how a young 18 19
541. 11:42shining example of how a young 18 19 year old student young girl becoming a
542. 11:48year old student young girl becoming a
543. 11:48year old student young girl becoming a woman who has taken the music and turned
544. 11:51woman who has taken the music and turned
545. 11:51woman who has taken the music and turned it upside down her tone her ability she
546. 11:55it upside down her tone her ability she
547. 11:55it upside down her tone her ability she can sing too
548. 11:56can sing too
549. 11:56can sing too but her rapping style the melody and the
550. 11:58but her rapping style the melody and the
551. 11:58but her rapping style the melody and the message blessings fall on my right town
552. 12:01message blessings fall on my right town
553. 12:01message blessings fall on my right town gratitude is a must
554. 12:03gratitude is a must
555. 12:03gratitude is a must yeah and went but this is being played
556. 12:06yeah and went but this is being played
557. 12:06yeah and went but this is being played on hot 97 in New York
558. 12:09on hot 97 in New York
559. 12:09on hot 97 in New York daytime high rotation is being played on
560. 12:12daytime high rotation is being played on
561. 12:12daytime high rotation is being played on BBC Radio one on daytime rotation and
562. 12:16BBC Radio one on daytime rotation and
563. 12:16BBC Radio one on daytime rotation and she's just done a combination with Ed
564. 12:19she's just done a combination with Ed
565. 12:19she's just done a combination with Ed Sheeran Justin Bieber and conics on a
566. 12:23Sheeran Justin Bieber and conics on a
567. 12:23Sheeran Justin Bieber and conics on a remix of Ed's new single what does that
568. 12:25remix of Ed's new single what does that
569. 12:25remix of Ed's new single what does that tell you of course she is last came here
570. 12:30tell you of course she is last came here
571. 12:30tell you of course she is last came here in Kenya Nairobi when they drop that
572. 12:34in Kenya Nairobi when they drop that
573. 12:34in Kenya Nairobi when they drop that record camera Rupert the please a glass
574. 12:40record camera Rupert the please a glass
575. 12:40record camera Rupert the please a glass of XP in Kenya salute so you know so
576. 12:48of XP in Kenya salute so you know so
577. 12:48of XP in Kenya salute so you know so that's the that's the message that these
578. 12:51that's the that's the message that these
579. 12:51that's the that's the message that these kids those who are doing balance who
580. 12:55kids those who are doing balance who
581. 12:55kids those who are doing balance who were glorifying that it would seem to be
582. 13:08were glorifying that it would seem to be
583. 13:08were glorifying that it would seem to be you it would seem to be their
584. 13:10you it would seem to be their
585. 13:10you it would seem to be their environment back home this teenage thing
586. 13:13environment back home this teenage thing
587. 13:13environment back home this teenage thing we thought this horrendous horror that's
588. 13:15we thought this horrendous horror that's
589. 13:15we thought this horrendous horror that's happening in our communities England
590. 13:16happening in our communities England
591. 13:17happening in our communities England where young people are stabbing each
592. 13:18where young people are stabbing each
593. 13:18where young people are stabbing each other every day
594. 13:19other every day
595. 13:19other every day I mean she's up an epidemic in England
596. 13:22I mean she's up an epidemic in England
597. 13:22I mean she's up an epidemic in England young people on a weekly sometimes daily
598. 13:25young people on a weekly sometimes daily
599. 13:25young people on a weekly sometimes daily basis are trying to stab each other to
600. 13:28basis are trying to stab each other to
601. 13:28basis are trying to stab each other to death 12 years 15 euros 18 dropping in
602. 13:31death 12 years 15 euros 18 dropping in
603. 13:31death 12 years 15 euros 18 dropping in the street for nothing that is a
604. 13:33the street for nothing that is a
605. 13:33the street for nothing that is a glorification of violence when you have
606. 13:36glorification of violence when you have
607. 13:36glorification of violence when you have people living in fear you are living in
608. 13:40people living in fear you are living in
609. 13:40people living in fear you are living in a horrible world if you can't go to bed
610. 13:42a horrible world if you can't go to bed
611. 13:42a horrible world if you can't go to bed at night and lay down on your pillow and
612. 13:45at night and lay down on your pillow and
613. 13:45at night and lay down on your pillow and give thanks for a day and know that
614. 13:47give thanks for a day and know that
615. 13:47give thanks for a day and know that tomorrow you have a day of hope and then
616. 13:50tomorrow you have a day of hope and then
617. 13:50tomorrow you have a day of hope and then you are going to live in fear then
618. 13:52you are going to live in fear then
619. 13:52you are going to live in fear then that's a terrible thing and I don't
620. 13:54that's a terrible thing and I don't
621. 13:54that's a terrible thing and I don't understand it but it is prevalent it has
622. 13:57understand it but it is prevalent it has
623. 13:57understand it but it is prevalent it has become more prevalent in teenage society
624. 13:59become more prevalent in teenage society
625. 13:59become more prevalent in teenage society in our major cities especially in London
626. 14:02in our major cities especially in London
627. 14:02in our major cities especially in London and I see it and I hear it in some of
628. 14:04and I see it and I hear it in some of
629. 14:04and I see it and I hear it in some of the music that's being made what does it
630. 14:06the music that's being made what does it
631. 14:06the music that's being made what does it achieve in my opinion well it clearly
632. 14:08achieve in my opinion well it clearly
633. 14:08achieve in my opinion well it clearly achieves nothing other than it causes
634. 14:09achieves nothing other than it causes
635. 14:09achieves nothing other than it causes death but if we're roulette if we
636. 14:12death but if we're roulette if we
637. 14:12death but if we're roulette if we reflect it to Jamaica and look at
638. 14:13reflect it to Jamaica and look at
639. 14:13reflect it to Jamaica and look at Jamaica
640. 14:14Jamaica
641. 14:14Jamaica it's that that gang culture that group
642. 14:17it's that that gang culture that group
643. 14:17it's that that gang culture that group culture that I don't have anyone but
644. 14:20culture that I don't have anyone but
645. 14:20culture that I don't have anyone but I've got my gang so I've got safety and
646. 14:22I've got my gang so I've got safety and
647. 14:22I've got my gang so I've got safety and I've got power and I'm empowered by the
648. 14:25I've got power and I'm empowered by the
649. 14:25I've got power and I'm empowered by the people I move with and one of the issues
650. 14:28people I move with and one of the issues
651. 14:28people I move with and one of the issues of course is all to do with the
652. 14:30of course is all to do with the
653. 14:30of course is all to do with the development of a young person you know
654. 14:32development of a young person you know
655. 14:32development of a young person you know what they go through the changes they go
656. 14:34what they go through the changes they go
657. 14:34what they go through the changes they go through from boyhood to manhood and all
658. 14:38through from boyhood to manhood and all
659. 14:38through from boyhood to manhood and all that comes with it and we're living in a
660. 14:40that comes with it and we're living in a
661. 14:40that comes with it and we're living in a world now where more and more it seems
662. 14:42world now where more and more it seems
663. 14:42world now where more and more it seems to me people are being obsessed with
664. 14:44to me people are being obsessed with
665. 14:44to me people are being obsessed with social media I mean okay
666. 14:47social media I mean okay
667. 14:47social media I mean okay social media is incredibly important in
668. 14:49social media is incredibly important in
669. 14:49social media is incredibly important in the Nick we can communicate with each
670. 14:50the Nick we can communicate with each
671. 14:50the Nick we can communicate with each other but now it's reached a stage where
672. 14:52other but now it's reached a stage where
673. 14:52other but now it's reached a stage where you're in a dance and people are filming
674. 14:55you're in a dance and people are filming
675. 14:55you're in a dance and people are filming themselves in the dance dancing and he
676. 15:00themselves in the dance dancing and he
677. 15:00themselves in the dance dancing and he wears this costume yeah and of course
678. 15:04wears this costume yeah and of course
679. 15:04wears this costume yeah and of course the whole thing of filming something
680. 15:05the whole thing of filming something
681. 15:05the whole thing of filming something instead of watching something you know I
682. 15:07instead of watching something you know I
683. 15:07instead of watching something you know I saw Bob Marley Peter Tosh and Bunny
684. 15:09saw Bob Marley Peter Tosh and Bunny
685. 15:09saw Bob Marley Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer in a pub in London in Fulham in
686. 15:11Wailer in a pub in London in Fulham in
687. 15:11Wailer in a pub in London in Fulham in 19 1974 I'll never forget the
688. 15:1619 1974 I'll never forget the
689. 15:1619 1974 I'll never forget the performance I didn't need a camera to
690. 15:18performance I didn't need a camera to
691. 15:18performance I didn't need a camera to remind me it's still in my head I think
692. 15:20remind me it's still in my head I think
693. 15:21remind me it's still in my head I think sometimes we have to remember that we do
694. 15:22sometimes we have to remember that we do
695. 15:22sometimes we have to remember that we do have brains we do have memories and we
696. 15:25have brains we do have memories and we
697. 15:25have brains we do have memories and we do have recall and so we can I know
698. 15:27do have recall and so we can I know
699. 15:27do have recall and so we can I know people want to capture everything but
700. 15:29people want to capture everything but
701. 15:29people want to capture everything but sometimes that the photographs simply
702. 15:31sometimes that the photographs simply
703. 15:31sometimes that the photographs simply doesn't capture it is merely a moment in
704. 15:34doesn't capture it is merely a moment in
705. 15:34doesn't capture it is merely a moment in time but the experience itself is vital
706. 15:37time but the experience itself is vital
707. 15:37time but the experience itself is vital and that's why that's why I think
708. 15:39and that's why that's why I think
709. 15:39and that's why that's why I think sometimes we're with too dependent on
710. 15:42sometimes we're with too dependent on
711. 15:42sometimes we're with too dependent on what somebody else is doing how many
712. 15:44what somebody else is doing how many
713. 15:45what somebody else is doing how many likes somebody has am i as popular as am
714. 15:48likes somebody has am i as popular as am
715. 15:48likes somebody has am i as popular as am I too fat and this body obsessive thing
716. 15:51I too fat and this body obsessive thing
717. 15:51I too fat and this body obsessive thing and how I saw your program about body
718. 15:54and how I saw your program about body
719. 15:54and how I saw your program about body enhancement I was very interesting on
720. 15:56enhancement I was very interesting on
721. 15:56enhancement I was very interesting on stage time that you did that show
722. 15:58stage time that you did that show
723. 15:58stage time that you did that show because that's another concern you know
724. 16:01because that's another concern you know
725. 16:01because that's another concern you know young especially with young girls
726. 16:02young especially with young girls
727. 16:02young especially with young girls they're concerned they lost can they
728. 16:06they're concerned they lost can they
729. 16:06they're concerned they lost can they lose confidence in themselves it's a
730. 16:08lose confidence in themselves it's a
731. 16:08lose confidence in themselves it's a terrible thing but young people growing
732. 16:11terrible thing but young people growing
733. 16:11terrible thing but young people growing up need help and encouragement positive
734. 16:14up need help and encouragement positive
735. 16:14up need help and encouragement positive attitude and if you're saying that the
736. 16:15attitude and if you're saying that the
737. 16:15attitude and if you're saying that the best thing they can do is be down with
738. 16:18best thing they can do is be down with
739. 16:18best thing they can do is be down with it with the whole culture of hating and
740. 16:20it with the whole culture of hating and
741. 16:20it with the whole culture of hating and the whole gang culture it's just it's
742. 16:22the whole gang culture it's just it's
743. 16:22the whole gang culture it's just it's insane I don't understand it because I
744. 16:25insane I don't understand it because I
745. 16:25insane I don't understand it because I don't live in it
746. 16:27don't live in it
747. 16:27don't live in it and I didn't when I grew up I certainly
748. 16:30and I didn't when I grew up I certainly
749. 16:30and I didn't when I grew up I certainly wasn't in the gang I chose not to be I
750. 16:31wasn't in the gang I chose not to be I
751. 16:31wasn't in the gang I chose not to be I think the greatest conviction I think
752. 16:34think the greatest conviction I think
753. 16:34think the greatest conviction I think the greatest thing young people can do
754. 16:35the greatest thing young people can do
755. 16:35the greatest thing young people can do is to stick to their own truth and and I
756. 16:38is to stick to their own truth and and I
757. 16:38is to stick to their own truth and and I think it's very important and this may
758. 16:40think it's very important and this may
759. 16:40think it's very important and this may sound a bit cheesy and I may sound a bit
760. 16:42sound a bit cheesy and I may sound a bit
761. 16:42sound a bit cheesy and I may sound a bit corny but my god listen to your mother
762. 16:45corny but my god listen to your mother
763. 16:45corny but my god listen to your mother and listen to your father and honor your
764. 16:47and listen to your father and honor your
765. 16:47and listen to your father and honor your mother and father because I know that as
766. 16:49mother and father because I know that as
767. 16:49mother and father because I know that as the years of tick by the things my
768. 16:50the years of tick by the things my
769. 16:50the years of tick by the things my parents taught me have resonated with me
770. 16:53parents taught me have resonated with me
771. 16:53parents taught me have resonated with me as I become a man I think it's very very
772. 16:55as I become a man I think it's very very
773. 16:55as I become a man I think it's very very important to listen and learn this
774. 17:09important to listen and learn this
775. 17:09important to listen and learn this mysterious man is actually the notorious
776. 17:12mysterious man is actually the notorious
777. 17:12mysterious man is actually the notorious sound system serial killer
778. 17:13sound system serial killer
779. 17:13sound system serial killer David Rowley God
780. 17:16David Rowley God
781. 17:16David Rowley God where's our music in the UK right now we
782. 17:19where's our music in the UK right now we
783. 17:19where's our music in the UK right now we credit the UK for breaking reggae in the
784. 17:21credit the UK for breaking reggae in the
785. 17:21credit the UK for breaking reggae in the work to the world you're the historian
786. 17:23work to the world you're the historian
787. 17:23work to the world you're the historian migrant Jamaicans took it before artists
788. 17:26migrant Jamaicans took it before artists
789. 17:26migrant Jamaicans took it before artists some of those win correct and they were
790. 17:27some of those win correct and they were
791. 17:27some of those win correct and they were playing it in their basement absolutely
792. 17:29playing it in their basement absolutely
793. 17:29playing it in their basement absolutely how you guys got to us exactly how I got
794. 17:32how you guys got to us exactly how I got
795. 17:32how you guys got to us exactly how I got onto it okay and then later on you loved
796. 17:35onto it okay and then later on you loved
797. 17:35onto it okay and then later on you loved it so much you wanted to see the artists
798. 17:37it so much you wanted to see the artists
799. 17:37it so much you wanted to see the artists come and perform yes
800. 17:38come and perform yes
801. 17:38come and perform yes the British people have since that been
802. 17:44the British people have since that been
803. 17:44the British people have since that been pushing the music consuming it yes and
804. 17:46pushing the music consuming it yes and
805. 17:46pushing the music consuming it yes and when they say yes to a record it is
806. 17:48when they say yes to a record it is
807. 17:48when they say yes to a record it is likely like coffee now yeah
808. 17:52likely like coffee now yeah
809. 17:52likely like coffee now yeah Coffee is burning out the world yeah
810. 17:54Coffee is burning out the world yeah
811. 17:54Coffee is burning out the world yeah because you guys added her to your
812. 17:57because you guys added her to your
813. 17:57because you guys added her to your playlist yes so I list a less rotation
814. 18:00playlist yes so I list a less rotation
815. 18:00playlist yes so I list a less rotation don't do I look to you for guidance in
816. 18:02don't do I look to you for guidance in
817. 18:02don't do I look to you for guidance in popular music I think the world has
818. 18:05popular music I think the world has
819. 18:05popular music I think the world has always looked to the UK because some of
820. 18:07always looked to the UK because some of
821. 18:07always looked to the UK because some of the greatest bands have commander
822. 18:08the greatest bands have commander
823. 18:08the greatest bands have commander polluting the great United States yes
824. 18:10polluting the great United States yes
825. 18:10polluting the great United States yes because the Beatles took America by
826. 18:12because the Beatles took America by
827. 18:12because the Beatles took America by storm yeah you know prior to them it was
828. 18:15storm yeah you know prior to them it was
829. 18:15storm yeah you know prior to them it was Elvis in a rock and roll movement but
830. 18:17Elvis in a rock and roll movement but
831. 18:17Elvis in a rock and roll movement but when the Beatles and The Rolling Stones
832. 18:18when the Beatles and The Rolling Stones
833. 18:18when the Beatles and The Rolling Stones came along there was a big explosion of
834. 18:21came along there was a big explosion of
835. 18:21came along there was a big explosion of British culture that hit America so yes
836. 18:24British culture that hit America so yes
837. 18:24British culture that hit America so yes the 60s are very important time I was
838. 18:26the 60s are very important time I was
839. 18:26the 60s are very important time I was fortunate enough to be a teenager
840. 18:28fortunate enough to be a teenager
841. 18:28fortunate enough to be a teenager growing up I saw Jimi Hendrix I saw him
842. 18:30growing up I saw Jimi Hendrix I saw him
843. 18:30growing up I saw Jimi Hendrix I saw him at Aylesbury Town Hall you know I saw
844. 18:32at Aylesbury Town Hall you know I saw
845. 18:32at Aylesbury Town Hall you know I saw these but some of these bands not all of
846. 18:34these but some of these bands not all of
847. 18:34these but some of these bands not all of them so we were there when that movement
848. 18:36them so we were there when that movement
849. 18:36them so we were there when that movement was happening and young working-class
850. 18:38was happening and young working-class
851. 18:38was happening and young working-class kids who were not Jamaican that they
852. 18:40kids who were not Jamaican that they
853. 18:40kids who were not Jamaican that they were white urban kids and London major
854. 18:42were white urban kids and London major
855. 18:42were white urban kids and London major cities they took this sound of reggae 50
856. 18:45cities they took this sound of reggae 50
857. 18:45cities they took this sound of reggae 50 years ago in 1969 and they made it their
858. 18:48years ago in 1969 and they made it their
859. 18:48years ago in 1969 and they made it their own how did they make it their own
860. 18:49own how did they make it their own
861. 18:49own how did they make it their own they went out and bought it in bucket
862. 18:52they went out and bought it in bucket
863. 18:52they went out and bought it in bucket loads box after box of these records
864. 18:54loads box after box of these records
865. 18:54loads box after box of these records were being sold not in traditional West
866. 18:56were being sold not in traditional West
867. 18:56were being sold not in traditional West Indian shops but in pop record shops
868. 18:58Indian shops but in pop record shops
869. 18:58Indian shops but in pop record shops so these chart returns are being made oh
870. 19:00so these chart returns are being made oh
871. 19:00so these chart returns are being made oh the pioneers took at them Dave and Ansel
872. 19:03the pioneers took at them Dave and Ansel
873. 19:03the pioneers took at them Dave and Ansel Collins oh and the melodeon old Pat
874. 19:05Collins oh and the melodeon old Pat
875. 19:05Collins oh and the melodeon old Pat Kelly these records were selling
876. 19:07Kelly these records were selling
877. 19:07Kelly these records were selling hundreds of thousands and they went in
878. 19:09hundreds of thousands and they went in
879. 19:09hundreds of thousands and they went in the British charts so young British
880. 19:12the British charts so young British
881. 19:12the British charts so young British youths took knew the music the skinheads
882. 19:15youths took knew the music the skinheads
883. 19:15youths took knew the music the skinheads and the mods before them took the music
884. 19:17and the mods before them took the music
885. 19:17and the mods before them took the music of Jamaica and took it onto themselves
886. 19:19of Jamaica and took it onto themselves
887. 19:19of Jamaica and took it onto themselves but the West Indian culture was there of
888. 19:22but the West Indian culture was there of
889. 19:22but the West Indian culture was there of us it's part of what was it what was
890. 19:24us it's part of what was it what was
891. 19:24us it's part of what was it what was growing and developing in England and
892. 19:26growing and developing in England and
893. 19:26growing and developing in England and they had their blues parties in there
894. 19:28they had their blues parties in there
895. 19:28they had their blues parties in there sure
896. 19:28sure
897. 19:28sure and their dances and their clubs and
898. 19:30and their dances and their clubs and
899. 19:30and their dances and their clubs and their sound systems and we can't forget
900. 19:31their sound systems and we can't forget
901. 19:31their sound systems and we can't forget the importance of sound systems but that
902. 19:33the importance of sound systems but that
903. 19:33the importance of sound systems but that was that was also happening but what was
904. 19:36was that was also happening but what was
905. 19:36was that was also happening but what was also happening was that this reggae
906. 19:38also happening was that this reggae
907. 19:38also happening was that this reggae music was being played on radio one I
908. 19:40music was being played on radio one I
909. 19:40music was being played on radio one I was hearing reggae music played on
910. 19:42was hearing reggae music played on
911. 19:42was hearing reggae music played on pirate ships in the North Sea of England
912. 19:44pirate ships in the North Sea of England
913. 19:44pirate ships in the North Sea of England that's how important the music of
914. 19:46that's how important the music of
915. 19:46that's how important the music of Jamaica was then and it's and it with
916. 19:48Jamaica was then and it's and it with
917. 19:48Jamaica was then and it's and it with any any it captured the heart souls and
918. 19:51any any it captured the heart souls and
919. 19:51any any it captured the heart souls and imagination of British people and
920. 19:53imagination of British people and
921. 19:53imagination of British people and everyone I defy anyone to say they don't
922. 19:57everyone I defy anyone to say they don't
923. 19:57everyone I defy anyone to say they don't know a reggae you know half a dozen
924. 19:59know a reggae you know half a dozen
925. 19:59know a reggae you know half a dozen reggae hits that is what the question is
926. 20:01reggae hits that is what the question is
927. 20:01reggae hits that is what the question is so important David about where the music
928. 20:04so important David about where the music
929. 20:04so important David about where the music is now it isn't where it once was and
930. 20:06is now it isn't where it once was and
931. 20:06is now it isn't where it once was and the reason for that is that the young
932. 20:09the reason for that is that the young
933. 20:09the reason for that is that the young black youth movement has not recreated
934. 20:12black youth movement has not recreated
935. 20:12black youth movement has not recreated the music that we know as reggae or
936. 20:15the music that we know as reggae or
937. 20:15the music that we know as reggae or dancehall they have created their own
938. 20:17dancehall they have created their own
939. 20:17dancehall they have created their own music which they call brine or their own
940. 20:20music which they call brine or their own
941. 20:20music which they call brine or their own version of hip-hop or rather art round
942. 20:22version of hip-hop or rather art round
943. 20:22version of hip-hop or rather art round be grind newzik epitomized by artists
944. 20:26be grind newzik epitomized by artists
945. 20:26be grind newzik epitomized by artists such as storms use headlining at the
946. 20:27such as storms use headlining at the
947. 20:27such as storms use headlining at the glut of the Glastonbury music festival
948. 20:29glut of the Glastonbury music festival
949. 20:29glut of the Glastonbury music festival this weekend is a reflection of what has
950. 20:32this weekend is a reflection of what has
951. 20:32this weekend is a reflection of what has now happened in England and this is not
952. 20:34now happened in England and this is not
953. 20:34now happened in England and this is not just black youths if you watch storm Z
954. 20:37just black youths if you watch storm Z
955. 20:37just black youths if you watch storm Z or some of the own gigs performing at
956. 20:39or some of the own gigs performing at
957. 20:39or some of the own gigs performing at these festivals
958. 20:40these festivals
959. 20:40these festivals you're not seeing thousands of the
960. 20:42you're not seeing thousands of the
961. 20:42you're not seeing thousands of the thousands of black people you're seeing
962. 20:43thousands of black people you're seeing
963. 20:43thousands of black people you're seeing a mixture of people and in the
964. 20:44a mixture of people and in the
965. 20:44a mixture of people and in the countryside in the in the Home Counties
966. 20:46countryside in the in the Home Counties
967. 20:46countryside in the in the Home Counties and that some of the counties are around
968. 20:48and that some of the counties are around
969. 20:48and that some of the counties are around the country you're seeing a
970. 20:49the country you're seeing a
971. 20:49the country you're seeing a predominantly white audience who know
972. 20:51predominantly white audience who know
973. 20:51predominantly white audience who know every single lyric of these artists
974. 20:54every single lyric of these artists
975. 20:54every single lyric of these artists songs so these artists are the sons and
976. 20:57songs so these artists are the sons and
977. 20:57songs so these artists are the sons and daughters of Jamaicans of Africans of
978. 21:00daughters of Jamaicans of Africans of
979. 21:00daughters of Jamaicans of Africans of Barbe Asians who've had a West Indian
980. 21:02Barbe Asians who've had a West Indian
981. 21:02Barbe Asians who've had a West Indian connection and an African ection but
982. 21:04connection and an African ection but
983. 21:04connection and an African ection but they are not recreating African music as
984. 21:07they are not recreating African music as
985. 21:07they are not recreating African music as such they're certainly not recreating
986. 21:08such they're certainly not recreating
987. 21:08such they're certainly not recreating dancehall or reggae because they they
988. 21:11dancehall or reggae because they they
989. 21:11dancehall or reggae because they they are just not and if you ask them how do
990. 21:14are just not and if you ask them how do
991. 21:14are just not and if you ask them how do you like reggae I like a bit of dance or
992. 21:18you like reggae I like a bit of dance or
993. 21:18you like reggae I like a bit of dance or do you like reggae no but my mum does
994. 21:21do you like reggae no but my mum does
995. 21:21do you like reggae no but my mum does and that's something that you get now my
996. 21:23and that's something that you get now my
997. 21:23and that's something that you get now my mum does the harder they come that film
998. 21:25mum does the harder they come that film
999. 21:25mum does the harder they come that film alone the soundtrack introduced millions
1000. 21:28alone the soundtrack introduced millions